What would happen if the USA became Communist

I’ve written a bit of alternate history, and “what-if” scenarios are rather fascinating to me.  As things are now, an unholy alliance of wealthy globalists and cultural Marxists (including Social Justice Warriors) are holding the reins of power.  Suppose that somehow a Marxist-Leninist style political system emerged in the USA?  Perhaps this might be the result of a coup, or SJWs assuming power and rediscovering their movement’s Communist roots.  Either way, what would happen in a United Soviet Socialist America?

If Marxist-Leninists take over, who would benefit?

In the beginning, the limousine liberals – all the insanely rich leftist rock stars, Hollywood types, and media figures – surely would be delighted, until they find out that redistribution of wealth includes them too.  Anyone who complained too much about their greatly diminished status will be first in line to a labor camp in Alaska.  Actually, it would be rather amusing to see a bunch of leftist celebrities sawing timber in sub-zero temperatures.

Surely the SJWs would be delighted too.  For so long, they had dreamed of assuming power and walking tall among the revolutionary vanguard.  Before, they were nobodies, orchestrating Internet smear campaigns from their dorm rooms or their mothers’ basements, but soon they’ll be ruling in the USSA’s Central Committee.  Well, all these armchair Lenins might have a rude awakening!  As KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov stated in an interview:

For example, your leftists in [the] United States:  all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders.  They are instrumental in the process of the subversion only to destabilize a nation.  When their job is completed, they are not needed any more.  They know too much.  Some of them, when they get disillusioned, when they see that Marxist-Leninists come to power – obviously they get offended – they think that they will come to power.  That will never happen, of course.  They will be lined up against the wall and shot.

Then Bezmenov goes into detail about countries where this happened.  Further on:

Interviewer:  And yet these people have been programmed, and as you say, in place who are favorable to an opening of the Soviet concept.   These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?

Bezmenov:  Most of them, yes.  Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in [the] future what the beautiful society of ‘equality’ and ‘social justice’ means in practice, obviously they will revolt.  They will be very unhappy, frustrated people, and the Marxist-Leninist regime does not tolerate these people.  Obviously they will join the leagues of dissenters (dissidents).   Unlike in [the] present United States there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America.  Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy-rich like Jane Fonda for being ‘dissident,’ for criticizing your Pentagon.  In [the] future these people will be simply [squashing sound] squashed like cockroaches.  Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful, noble ideas of equality.  This they don’t understand and it will be [the] greatest shock for them, of course.

Ouch!  Even those who do get cushy jobs in the Central Committee might not end up so well.  I could write a book about the good things that Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin did, which would be one page long and mostly blank.  Item one would be that he had all the leading Old Guard Communists killed.

So what about the gays, lesbians, and transgendered?  Their movement has been courted by the left, so will they finally get things the way they want in the USSA, comes the Revolution?  Actually, I hardly can think of how the present-day Federal government possibly could bend over backwards for them more.  By contrast, in the Soviet Union, they were sent to mental institutions.  Even if the USSA doesn’t go that far, the leaders certainly would have no use for any further antics on their part.  So much for the great transgendered bathroom debate!

How about racial minorities?  The Communists have tried to get American Blacks on their side ever since a certain strategy meeting between Vyacheslav Molotov and FDR’s pal “Uncle Joe”.  However, after the Revolution, they would be well-advised to keep a low profile.  These days, rioting and assassinations of police officers by BLM fans are treated as isolated incidents.  However, using history as a guide, the USSR had quite a tradition of sending ethnic groups deemed insufficiently loyal to remote areas.  On the positive side of the equation, places like Detroit, East St. Louis, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Birmingham would get a fresh start.  Likewise, under a Communist regime, Hispanics who dream of taking over the Southwest and giving “Aztlan” back to Mexico would end up getting exactly what they deserve.

What about all the millions on public assistance?  They’ve been a very useful voting bloc for the left, but they would become dead weight in the USSA.  Mitt Romney, during the Presidential race, was recorded on a hidden camera pointing out that “there are 47% who are with [Obama], who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it…  47% of Americans pay no income tax.”  He took a lot of heat for this; mainly because the truth hurts.  Today, taxes are subsidizing a great number of able-bodied citizens who can work, but either can’t find a job, have given up hope, or don’t want to work.  In the USSA, this no longer would be an option for them.  As Comrade Lenin put it, “Who does not work, does not eat.”  At least this would do wonders for our country’s obesity problem.

All told, those who dream of a Communist revolution should be careful what they wish for!  Granted, Marxist-Leninist style Communism is unlikely to take root here.  A more probable “what-if” scenario would be where our present-day soft despotism becomes a more hardcore variety (perhaps following an engineered “national emergency”), or a few decades down the road when the population replacement policy turns the USA into a third world slum.  (That was initiated with Ted Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act, similar to the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan going on in Europe.)  Even then, there would be many unpleasant surprises awaiting those who thought any of this was “progress”.

What would happen if the USA became Communist

17 thoughts on “What would happen if the USA became Communist

  1. Just to point out, the Soviet Union ALSO gave ethnic groups their own autonomous republics, legalized homosexuality before other European countries, AND removed restrictions on marriage. And, or all you know this hypothetical communist revolution could result in the worst SJWs seizing power and purging any possible conservatives in the society before this happens. And I won’t take Yuri Bezmenov as a good source on this either


  2. It’s true that the republics of the USSR were along ethnic lines, however that doesn’t really mean too much in terms of sovereignty where a one-party dictatorship is concerned. Even so, entire populations did get uprooted. Also, just in case people got ideas, Stalin made sure to gerrymander the borders so they didn’t match ethnic composition too closely. This is why these days there’s a border dispute between Russia and Ukraine, and also why Russians got pushed out of areas In Central Asia where they’d lived for centuries.

    Regarding homosexuality, that was officially made illegal by “Uncle Joe”. Before that, there wasn’t a law against it, but gays still had to keep it on the down low. (To believe otherwise would be sort of like saying that 16th Century England was a gay old time until Henry VIII’s Buggery Act.) They didn’t have gay marriage back then. Russia still isn’t exactly a GLBT paradise.

    As for which faction might take charge, all that’s speculative, of course. If history were to repeat itself, dissidents in either direction wouldn’t be tolerated.

    Finally, Bezmenov defected at great risk to himself because of his belief that it was wrong to do things like destabilize friendly countries and compile hit lists. Since you’re not taking his word for it, then I gather that your service in the KGB was a lot more tranquil. Let me guess – were you stationed in Czechoslovakia, with all the good beer and pretty mountains, Comrade? On a more serious note, if you’re interested in this, you might also look into Vasili Mitrokhin’s experiences as well.



  3. apparently im blocked or the gravitar aint working? oh well.

    sorry for delay:

    The thing is; socialist states with a one-party government still are better that you had now or even in say 1940s US where the black population was not given an autonomous repubic which which to preserve their culture and speak their language. A for all intentions unsovereign state is better than not giving your people any sort of cultural autonomy. (especially for blacks then, and even noy)

    Furthermore, most of the population transfer in the USSR under Stalin was to make more homogenous borders (i.e. moving Poles and Ukrainians around, and some of the Central Asian deportations) or for security/paranoia reasons (resettling Germans and Poles), not for the purposes of fucking over ethnic groups. Furthermore, the Soviets even under Stalin didn’t deport ethnic groups en masse which were larger than say 800,000 people. The black population of the US is 40 million, you aren’t going to deport 40 million people to Alaska or Canada. Stalin deported peoples who had autonomous republics (chechens, kalmyks, etc), not union republics (Ukraine, Azerbaijan, etc)

    And the Ukraine/Russia conflict over Crimea was something Khruschev did, not Stalin. The Central Asian expulsions of Russian was done under Lenin, not Stalin and that was to get rid of colonists and help local nationalists. Not to fuck over minority ethnic groups.

    Furthermore, in a lot of say the Caucuases no matter what the Soviets did the ethnic delimitations would not be perfect. Stalin, as nationalties minister actually listened to what the local ethnic groups wanted – it’s why for example Bashkorostan isn’t part of Tatarstan; the local Bashkirs had a separate nationalist movement and their relationship with Tatars was a bit shaky at the time.

    Gays had to keep it on the downlow in 1920s USSR? Lol no, Sergei Eisenstein and other ministers were openly gay. There literally was early transgender research (probably collaborated with Weimar Germany). Perhaps in the more ass-backwards parts of the Caucaus and Central Asian republics where the local laws stayed/werent removed….

    Regarding Bezmenov – it’s because of as a KGB agent, I would believe he would be more aware of oh I dunno, the CIA doing just as bad if not worse things. And of course, 2017 USA would be more like Germany if it went communist after WWI. WWI German communists included Wilhelm Reich, the guy who thought orgasms were harnessable into orgone energy and who promoted free sex ed for all. Aka I doubt they’d go reactionary. Even Trotsky mentioned something similar


  4. Anyway, late reply from me too; I haven’t been to the comments in a while..

    It’s indeed possible to create culturally homogenous regions with a degree of autonomy to run things according to their sensibilities. That would necessitate re-drawing state lines. It would also involve rolling back centralized control, decentralizing authority to the states, as it had been in earlier parts of the USA’s history. That might, in fact, turn out to be a necessary measure in times to come. However, it would be a difficult sell presently, since it’s not a “mainstream” idea.

    As for the USSR’s many population transfers, those were generally punitive in nature for groups suspected of being insufficiently committed to Communism. So overall, that was more like ethnic cleansing (or outright land grabs) rather than providing territorial integrity for populations that didn’t get along. the targeted groups were often sent far away from their homelands into desolate areas – and suffering the obvious results.

    In any case, territorial integrity wasn’t really a big priority. I understand that the Republic borders were gerrymandered to discourage independence movements from being viable. The Crimea situation is one example of present-day troubles caused by these policies. That one turned out to be a big mess, and I hope cooler heads will prevail.


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